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	~~[[User:~~Neilan~~\|Neilan]]~~: Hello everyone and welcome to episode number 89 of the Board Game Barrage podcast. I am your host Neilan and with me as always are my co-hosts Mark and Kellen. Say hello.		{{Neilan}}: Hello everyone and welcome to episode number 89 of the Board Game Barrage podcast. I am your host Neilan and with me as always are my co-hosts Mark and Kellen. Say hello.

	~~[[User:Green_Tank\|~~Mark]]: Hey.		{{Mark}}: Hey.

	~~[[User:RedTank\|~~Kellen]]: Hello. 89, that's a good year. (Mark: Wait, your birth year?) That is the year of my birth.		{{Kellen}}: Hello. 89, that's a good year. (Mark: Wait, your birth year?) That is the year of my birth.

	Neilan: Oh wow. And the world has never been the same. Sorry, that wasn't meant to be as sarcastic as it came across!		Neilan: Oh wow. And the world has never been the same. Sorry, that wasn't meant to be as sarcastic as it came across!

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 Get to the anything else you can talk to bounce ideas off people but there is a level of absurdity when somebody was like his will not budge on the fact that this is a wine auction because like but you do need to talk about it. You do need to discuss it and I do appreciate like passion arguments one another I just think there is a weekly level absurdly that I don't think anybody should agree to you, but yeah, I know we need to discuss that we do what makes a white but there's another word gets at Extreme so I forgotten where we started it strikes me that 18 games and specifically the community. I don't speak from this from position of knowledge. Obviously is particularly right for the sort of discussion by what classifies as Nathan
-Sonic games are like hotly debated as to whether they even count. Yeah. I mean a great examples game. We just played 18 hugely contentious and there's like a nature that can read the sort of the meaning of what qualifies and what does qualify as 18xx cable 18 is like a game that is super Hartley contentious about enough boxes to 5:15 18xx game that is like ultimately if we decide for the 18xx community decided that 18 wasn't an Xbox game or was would it matter? Author people saying why like just tell me why this is not eating xx game if enough for the 18 access or the board game community agrees is done 18xx game but like tell me why and let me find out if I like this exception and if I like it, then I can maybe find games that are like this exception if it's not strictly speaking and a T-shirt fine, but why not figure out why you not have given out by a great joke neon and I was so the checkmate against the 18xx crowd is that all you have to do to make an 18xx game is name your game with the word 18 time going to make like a children's dexterity game that has some elements of 18xx and name. 18 + y animal on Kickstarter just to get this on digi. Get it likely more than do their mechanism right. Oh my god upset of the alleged so I suspect the scenes this episode as we're gonna get a lot of discussion about this on the discord as it's already been popping off pretty strongly over this past week. So that's good. Tell you to join the discord. Yeah, please do it yeah come in to give us your thoughts of this anything else. We talk about it's a very vibrant active fun. It's a board game brothers.com and if you don't know what discord is it's just glorified chat you join a website to sign-up. Join you start talking about board games with a lot of passionate the level so please do that. Otherwise it's going to wrap it up for the show you could check us out on all about social media on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram thank you as always to everyone that supported us all of our patrons anyone else left a review and thank you as a route to Heart Society for learning as what's in your mind kid Azhar intro and Outro music that's going to do it for the show goodbye everybody here buy cotton candy grapes.
+Sonic games are like hotly debated as to whether they even count. Yeah. I mean a great examples game. We just played 18 hugely contentious and there's like a nature that can read the sort of the meaning of what qualifies and what does qualify as 18xx cable 18 is like a game that is super Hartley contentious about enough boxes to 5:15 18xx game that is like ultimately if we decide for the 18xx community decided that 18 wasn't an Xbox game or was would it matter? Author people saying why like just tell me why this is not eating xx game if enough for the 18 access or the board game community agrees is done 18xx game but like tell me why and let me find out if I like this exception and if I like it, then I can maybe find games that are like this exception if it's not strictly speaking and a T-shirt fine, but why not figure out why you not have given out by a great joke neon and I was so the checkmate against the 18xx crowd is that all you have to do to make an 18xx game is name your game with the word 18 time going to make like a children's dexterity game that has some elements of 18xx and name. 18 + y animal on Kickstarter just to get this on digi. Get it likely more than do their mechanism right. Oh my god upset of the alleged so I suspect the scenes this episode as we're gonna get a lot of discussion about this on the discord as it's already been popping off pretty strongly over this past week. So that's good. Tell you to join the discord. Yeah, please do it yeah come in to give us your thoughts of this anything else. We talk about it's a very vibrant active fun. It's a board game brothers.com and if you don't know what discord is it's just glorified chat you join a website to sign-up. Join you start talking about board games with a lot of passionate the level so please do that. Otherwise it's going to wrap it up for the show you could check us out on all about social media on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram thank you as always to everyone that supported us all of our patrons anyone else left a review and thank you as a route to Heart Society for learning as what's in your mind kid Azhar intro and Outro music that's going to do it for the show goodbye everybody here buy
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 If we quantify it and we spit out a list, I'm not saying it's going to even, I'm not even like it but it's going to put it into my purview. Now it's something I can think about I just question the value, okay? Even of even of saying that there is value in finding games that are the same subset of mechanics as games you like up and rewind. The tape here to the point where you called this idea offencive know they specifically offensive in that if two games would have had this
-Match of mechanics that there is any relative value between them blowing my mind. But you're okay. Noble. What's just like he's Noble? It's Noble. Yeah as in it's morally a good thing to do and to be clear I don't think the whole system is offensive. I mean the idea that you would hone in on specific games and say these games are comparable because they share these mechanics and they're not they're academically taxonomic. Lika more than that I know more than John academic level. There is something between them. That is similar. What do you? I don't understand how you could be making this argument because their games, their entertainment products, there is, there are salting is career, did you think about that you didn't for one second? Because you're not Noble, you cannot create quote, unquote aesthetic, value by breaking down a product, okay? To its constituent number, like Star Wars? Yeah. Okay.
+Match of mechanics that there is any relative value between them blowing my mind. But you're okay. Noble. What's just like he's Noble? It's Noble. Yeah as in it's morally a good thing to do and to be clear I don't think the whole system is offensive. I mean the idea that you would hone in on specific games and say these games are comparable because they share these mechanics and they're not they're academically taxonomic. Lika more than that I know more than John academic level. There is something between them. That is similar. What do you? I don't understand how you could be making this argument because their games, their entertainment products, there is, there are salting is career, did you think about that you didn't for one second? Because you're not Noble, you cannot create quote, unquote aesthetic, value by breaking down a product, okay? To its constituent number, like Star Wars? Yeah. Okay.13:46
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 Thank you guys so much for joining us for the first ever episode of the Board Game Barrage podcast. You can find us at [https://boardgamebarrage.com/ www.boardgamebarrage.com] or on Instagram at [https://www.instagram.com/boardgamebarrage/ boardgamebarrage], on Twitter at ...

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	~~Kellen: But [[Scythe]], Neilan, is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It is literally pretending to be a [[Dictionary#0-9\|4X game]] and it is a dry, non-interactive Euro.~~

	~~Neilan: It's a good game.~~

	~~Mark: [[Biblios]] is the best game of all-time.~~

	~~Kellen: Oh my gosh.~~

	~~Mark: Biblios is the best game of all-time.~~

	~~Kellen: Stay on topic Mark!~~

	~~Mark: That has to be included in this first ...~~

	~~Kellen: Is Biblios even a game?~~

	~~Neilan: We're gonna have the Biblios segment every week.~~

	~~Mark: That's right. I'm all for that. Let's do it.~~

	~~Kellen: This is a mutiny.~~

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+[[User:Neilan|Neilan]]: Hello everyone and welcome to episode number 89 of the Board Game Barrage podcast. I am your host Neilan and with me as always are my co-hosts Mark and Kellen. Say hello.
-[[User:Neilan|Neilan]]:
+Kellen: Your life would never have been the same Neilan. (Neilan: Oh wow.) But also I wanted to give a shout out to someone on Instagram who messaged us and said that they finally realized that the tanks - the red, green and orange tanks that we were referring to - were not tank tops, but in fact artillery tanks. But now I'm thinking about matching tank tops.
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+Neilan: I like the idea that we exclusively wear tank tops, when we record.
-Hello everyone and welcome to episode number 89 of the board game barrage podcast. I am your host Nealon and with me as always on my co-hosts marking, Kellen. Say hello. Hey, hello. Sadie 9. That is that's a good year. Wait here. That is the year of my birth. Oh wow. Sorry, that wasn't meant to be across your life. Would never have been Same deal. Oh wow. But also I wanted to give a shout out to someone on Instagram who messaged us and said that they finally realized that the tanks the red green and orange tanks that we were referring to were not tank tops, but in fat, in fact artillery tanks. But now I'm thinking about matching tank to, I like the idea that we exclusively wear tank tops, when we record Shucks Shucks report. Yeah, and cops, I can't I can you imagine just sitting up there on the panel with just a tank top on. That's looking bright green. That's perfect. I would be traumatic to all the people in person. There today on the episode, we're going to be talking about classification. This is in light of the changes that BoardGameGeek has been making to this site regarding how they classify and sort mechanisms for board games. We're going to be talking about why we need to classify board games, whether we think it's something important. And what games maybe straddle-zoomers'
+Mark: SHUX, the SHUX report in tank tops.
-The lines of the system. Oh, that's going to be coming up later in the episode. Before we carry on, I want to give a brief call out to our patreon. This is a good way to support the show. It's one of the best ways you can support us. In fact, we use it just to cover the costs of recording equipment. That sort of thing. You can find that at board game barrage. I cam patreon or patreon.com slash board game barrage and one of the benefits available, at one of the tiers are patreon is a bonus episode. So we do these once a month. We're about to do it today. Yeah, we're going to release One very shortly, the one for September and we generally, we, you know, we will talk more about board games. We also talked about other stuff we're interested in video games podcast. TV shows. Been watching it deep. Yeah, keep it personal. It's a little bit more off the cuff a little bit looser and we can wearing I'm wearing a multicolored of suit right now, in preparation. That's what the tank tops come off. That's right. That's right. Little tank tops. Come off in the Cuffs. Come on. It's uncensored. I think that's where the biggest Rodney on you Barry.
+Neialn:. Ooh, yeah!
-Saves me, like 45 minutes of editing time because I'd have to worry about censoring Callens gallon out. I've tried to flee. So please check this out, likes to huge Boon for us. It's a nice way to show you support. Let's carry on with the games that we've been playing. Mark, what you got for us, way back in 2018, on my gencon, most anticipated list. There was a little, there are actually two bird related games. I can't remember one of them. Oh, no. Speaka me know which I've never played, but the other one was peep Motz, and I've been searching for this game far and wide. I could never get my hands on it and no opportunities to buy it. Yeah, so that's a joke for anybody who's willing to show but I finally have had it. I could have had in common, I could have had a giant coffee table.
+Kellen: Can you imagine just sitting up there on the panel with just a tank top on that's bright green?
 Box. But instead, I've traded a pack of Games game for it, which is fantastic Scrooge McDuck, but that we've played it, we've all played this actually. I've played it about seven or eight times in the last month or so, this is peat moss in case I haven't said it already. So this is a card game. I like to describe it as a less intense version of Arboretum. What you're doing in this game is you've got a hand of bird cards to six different suits, six different types of birds. Each suit goes from 1 to 6 with two copies of each card. So there are like two like Sparrow cards. There are value 3 for example, into Sparrow Cards value for from 1, to 6 for each of the six types of birds. And what you're doing it on your own is you're playing a bird to one of two or three, depending on the player count columns, basically. And if the birds you've placed in a column exceed, the lead bird, there is a lead bird.
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 Your business zero stars. That sucks. Just a bad review. Yeah well I mean I guess it has happened at some point of yeah. I guess you'd be honest but that's a sort of a bummer review. Well, we did say we'd read them all so yeah you know. Okay he presenting them in preferably a little more. Yeah I'll be more about exactly. They didn't pick a tank. The show did are obviously read say did mention red in there. That's implied. Maybe.
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